In response to Cityslackjobin, elcentaur, and some of your internet “friends”. I did supply facts to your “friend” Nextyearsgirl. You either missed them, or you are extremely obtuse and stubborn. Go to WebMD, view the slideshow on a growing baby. See if you think that’s a collection of “cells”….
Can’t post this in it’s entirety on my wall, as it’s too long for the reblog box, but i welcome anyone and everyone who comes across this to just take a look at how misguided and stubborn this woman is.
You, Traveleroflight, have a holier than thou attitude about everything because of your age. You think that age is synonymous with wisdom, when it’s actually the experiences you’ve had that gives you insight into the world. I didn’t look for your facts, i don’t care about your facts. This argument has nothing to do with facts.
This is about the right a woman has to do what she pleases with her own body. Abortion is not murder. Abortion can fix what would be a derailed life. It could help a family who can’t afford monthly doctor visits to stay afloat. It could even be a life-saving procedure when giving birth to a child would physically, permanently harm or even kill the woman in question.
You think it’s murder. Is it murder when a police officer has to take down a dangerous man or woman? No, it’s self defense or for the betterment of the community.
In response to your sentence about killing little boys and girls. They’re not. until a certain point in the pregnancy, they’re genderless, sexless, thoughtless creatures. The embryo doesn’t start developing genital organs under after the 6th week of pregnancy. You’re using phrases like that only to spark up emotion, which adds nothing to your side of the argument. I thought writing was one of your strengths? It seems to me like inane babbling is your strength. Not thought out sentences.
The blanket statement “most abortions are done after four weeks, prior to that the female is unaware.” Is a blatant falsehood. Certain pregnancy tests can tell if you’re pregnant merely five days after conception.
I’m gonna break down into a lesser form of argument. The copy/paste/reply method. I’m going to paste sentences from her post, and reply to them individually.
“If you support this barbaric practice, you are saying that you don’t believe in FACTS.”
Aren’t you supposed to be a writer? Shouldn’t you know what “fact” means?
“… I’d wager you don’t HAVE children because most of you are still children, some with grown up bodies.”
Madam, I am an adult in an adult body, thank you very much. Your calling of the entire other side “children” just makes you look worse to the outsider’s eye.
“You mock me on your page and don’t post what I’ve actually said. It is a vain attempt to appear that you have “won” some kind of game on the internet”
Every single word you’ve posted is right up there behind a link, as I said. Anyone reading this is welcome, no, encouraged to read the dribble you’ve been posting all day. I am not mocking you. I’m proving you wrong in a argumentative setting, it’s not a game on the internet. It’s me doing my best to make you look foolish so no one has to start out taking you seriously.
fair warning, this next quote is a long one.
“You all love animals and would be outraged if one was killed wouldn’t you? Yes, you would. Because in your narrow worlds consisting of gaming, Netflix, tumblr, facebook, etc., animals are your “friends”. I dare say SOME of you are mushrooms (sitting in your dark rooms) who don’t have many, or any human friends in “real life”. So you transfer any positive emotion you may have onto your cat, your dog, your fish. That way, you don’t risk any emotional ties to another human do you? You bury your human connection as far down as you can. You blog endlessly on Tumblr and on other sites about things you know really nothing about, and mouth the words “a woman’s right”, etc. It’s not just a woman here. It’s TWO human beings. Do you understand that at all? Or would you rather pet the cat or feed your fish and mock humans, while pretending to care about “that woman” who has had an abortion? Do you have any idea the guilt and grief MOST women feel after having one? I do, some of my friends had them when they were in their 20’s. Now in their 40’s and 50’s, their “choice” still haunts them and grieves them. Why? Because they have a conscience!”
1. Killing a living, breathing animal is different than culling a cluster of cells from a woman’s uterus.
2. You say that we are social outcasts, sitting in our rooms, alone, with no human friends. That’s just another statement attacking our character, which is what you’ve based your entire argument on
3. I only talk about what I know about, and when I don’t know about something, I don’t run my mouth off and make a fool of myself.
4. You’re right, it’s not just a woman there. It’s a woman and what might be an unwanted parasite growing inside of them. The woman is more important than the unborn child, especially if it’s unwanted or harmful to their bodies.
5. You again blanket women who’ve had an abortion with “MOST WOMEN FEEL GUILTY”. How do you know? Have you interviewed most women? Do you know how many women most women is? About 80% of half of the world. I have to assume you haven’t done that.
6. Then that is a personal situation for your friend. It’s a personal situation that they alone have to deal with. Just because one person regretted getting an abortion does not mean that all abortion should be illegal.
“You all support this murder because you’ve been spoon fed the nonsense from abortion providers.”
I’ve been spoonfed nothing. I’ve never read anything having to do with planned parenthood or any other abortion clinic. I do, however, know the basic human right to do with their own body what they please.
“If a woman does not want to become pregnant, use 2 forms of reliable birth control EVERY SINGLE TIME. If she can’t or it fails, give the BABY up for adoption. You are not pregnant with a wart or a kidney. You are pregnant with a BABY, a human LIFE.”
You just don’t get it, do you? Do you know what rape is? It’s sex forced on a person. as in, non-consensual. What about a stupid fourteen year old girl* who doesn’t know any better? That would ruin her life if she didn’t get that abortion. You have to realize. The unborn child is NOTHING compared to the mother. I don’t care what you have to say about “little boys and little girls”. They’re worthless compared to the mother. It’s her choice and her choice alone to choose whether they are born or not.
“Go back to your Naruto, your WOW, you Halo, your Hello Kittys, all that nonsense on computers and t.v. that allow you to be away from real humans and real human emotion (oh yes, you feel anger though don’t you, you’re good at anger). ”
Again, you’re attacking these people. Saying they don’t understand human emotion. Tell, me, Lady. How many people do you interact with on a daily basis? New people, i mean. People you haven’t known for years. I bet you don’t interact with more than I.
“You have anger and the desensitization you’ve acquired from killing fake characters in a fucking video game. (I’m using language you can understand).”
Hon, are you sure you even understand the words you’re saying? “you have desensitization”? Usually self-proclaimed English degree holders know how to use words.
Again, you’re using your holier than thou attitude against these people. You think you’re better than them, but you’re not. You’re human, I’m human, they’re human. We’re all the same. We all should have the same basic rights. You just want to take some of those away.
For those that mock me: Post THIS in it’s ENTIRETY on your walls if you dare. To the ones that do mock me, you are close minded, room dwelling, computer loving, intolerant (yes you are, you hate anyone that isn’t liberal) humans who were once just like the children you support being killed. Next: get off your asses and join the real world with other real humans. You might just learn something if you open your minds and hearts (I still think some of you are not beyond hope).
Posted. in it’s entirety, on my wall. I hope others will reblog this as well, just to show how bad people can get. I mock you. I am not close-minded. I am not even close to intolerant. I love everyone, i give no discrimination and I have no prejudice. I hate no one. No matter how much you can put life stories behind us from the internet, you don’t know us. You’re a minority**, I get it. You’re trying to be extra loud because there’s so few of you.
That last sentence. Wow. You are deigning us “not real”, for opposing you in views. Now doesn’t that sound intolerant? Isn’t that exactly what you said we were? I think you’re the intolerant one, and you can’t bare to be wrong. So you sit on the computer all day and find and attack people on the internet for having a differing opinion.
Honestly. People like you should be struck deaf, blind and dumb. Just so they can’t do any further damage to our race.
And again, as i close this out. Anyone who see’s and reads this. Reblog it, prove her wrong.
*I’m not saying all fourteen year old girls are stupid, it was an anecdote.
** Minority in the number sense, not ethnicity.
joe, you are my favorite master debater.